Date: Tue, 31 Dec 91 16:30:52 -0500 
From: Judy Karpen <karpen@nrlfs1.stanford.edu>
Subject: report on methods for Backup to UNIX boxes across an ethernet 

Dear Moderators: Please post this in the /report area.  Thank you!

Here are the responses I received to the fiollowing question:
> Everyone else in my group has a Sparc workstation, linked to a Sparc server
> via ethernet; as the sole (and proud) Mac owner in the group, however, I 
> can't take advantage of the server in a straightforward way --- or can I?
> In particular, I'd like to do unattended backups over the net (I am on\
> ethernet also) to the server, rather than having to buy a tape unit for 
> just myself or continuing to do backups to floppies (too tedious).  Does 
> anyone out there have any experience with software, etc. that allows a Mac
> to back up to a unix machine via ethernet --- something like a batch ftp
> program would do it, although it would be terribly slow I suspect?  The 
> alternative is to be able to mount an NFS volume (which is what the Sparc
> stations do) --- is there any software that would fool the Mac into doing
> this?  All suggestions will be greatly appreciated!    
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From: sigurd@ripsbusk.ii.uib.no (Sigurd Meldal)
Subject: re: Backup to UNIX boxes across an ethernet
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 21:29:31 +0100

The question: (SEE ABOVE)

The answer:
1. Make the UNIX box an AppleShare file server.
   Two ways to do that, I believe: 
   Either install the Columbia Appletalk Package (CAP), v. 6.0,
   or install EtherShare.

   I have no experience with EtherShare. CAP is free (anon. FTP from
   rutgers.edu, among other places) and offers access to UNIX
   laserwriters as well as fileservers (and other things).

2. Buy RetroSpect from Dantz.
   It's a wonderful backup program, with quite flexible scripting. It
   also has automatic startups, you tell it to do the backup during the
   night every 13th of the Month and all the Wednesdays, and it jolly
   well does it. Make a script backing up your stuff to the UNIX based
   AppleShare volume, and you're done.

I am using this setup at my department (Two macs and a host of
SparcStations). It works flawlessly.

Sigurd Meldal

   
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Department of Informatics, HiB, N-5020 Bergen, Norway
Ph.: +47 5 54 42 00              Fax.: +47 5 54 41 99
              Email: sigurd@ii.uib.no
             (Writing from home today)
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 18:49:10 EST
From: darin@kaman.com (Darin S. Lory)
Reply-To: Darin S. Lory <darin@kaman.com>
Organization: Kaman Sciences Corporation, Advanced Technology Division
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are those of the sender and do not
            reflect Kaman Sciences' policies or agreements.
To: karpen@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: doing backups to a unix machine linked by ethernet


Judy,

	If you find out the software that lets you do backups over
the net to a Sun Sparcstation, let me know.

	I believe that this may help you though:

MacTOPS or SunTOPS
Sitka Corporation
950 Marina Village Parkway      Mailto:         SunTOPS Sales Department
Alameda, CA 94501                               P.O. Box 4016
Tel: +1.800.445.8677                            Alameda, CA 94501-9801
Contact: Daniel Duart

I haven't got a chance to either purchase this or ask more questions about
MacTOPS.

 
-Darin 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 91 06:52:26 -0500
From: gfink@relay.nswc.navy.mil
To: karpen@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: RE> doing backups to a unix machine linked by ethernet

Judy,
We had the same problem here at NAVSWC (Dahlgren, Va).  We solved it using Gator
Share from Cayman Systems.  My address book entry for them is:
University Park at MIT
26 Landsdowne Street
Cambridge, Mass 02139

Comments: Makers of GatorMail-Q, GatorShare, GatorBox
Email:
Internet: support@cayman.com
AppleLink: d0523
MacNET: CAYMAN

Phone: (617) 494-1999 (Tech Support)

Sorry, I do not have the sales number.  Their tech support will probably talk to
you if you tell them you were referred by another customer (Tell 'em *I* sent 
you :^) ).  You may not require the kind of system we have here, but Cayman 
should set you straight.

Write back if you need more info,
Glenn Fink
gfink@relay.nswc.navy.mil
(703) 663-8130
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1991 08:51 EST
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: NFS - Mac software
To: karpen@ccf.nrl.navy.mil
X-Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania

InterCon Systems Corp. markets a product called NFS/Share which allows the Mac
to mount NFS volumes as though they were AppleShare volumes.  My copy came
bundled with the Shiva FastPath 5 we bought; unfortunately we have no NFS
servers here (that I know of) so there is no way for me to actually USE the
software ;)

InterCon Systems Corp.
950 Herndon Parkway
Herndon, VA  22070
Voice: 703-709-9890
Fax:   703-709-9896

I have no connection with them other than owning their product.
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Mark Nutter                                  Internet: manutter@grove.iup.edu
Apple Support Manager                          BITNET: MANUTTER@IUP
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
G-4 Stright Hall, IUP
Indiana, PA 15705
"Nobody ever achieves immortality in their own lifetime."
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 91 09:47:59 EDT
From: Hank Dolben <Dolben@ESPVAX.UNH.edu>
Subject: NFS client for Mac
To: Karpen@ccf.nrl.navy.mil

Judy,

You ask:

> alternative is to be able to mount an NFS volume (which is what the Sparc
> stations do) --- is there any software that would fool the Mac into doing
> this?  All suggestions will be greatly appreciated!    

Yes, there is "NFS/Share" from InterCon.  With it you use the Chooser to mount 
volumes on NFS file servers and have them show up on your desktop much as with 
AppleShare.

           InterCon Systems Corp.
           950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 390
           Herndon, Virginia  22070

           TEL:  703-709-9890
           FAX:  703-709-9896
           MAIL: comment@intercon.com

Regards,
Hank Dolben, University of New Hampshire
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From: tim@ufcia.health.ufl.edu (Tim Cera)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1991 15:49:15 EST
To: karpen@cfe1.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: DUMP

Hello,
there is a program called DUMP from the University of Utah.  Last check
it was $200 for a site license.  Got this info from a old tidbits.
contact

Loretta Cruse
University of Utah
Center for Software Science
3190 Merrill Engineerring Building
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
801 581-5017
FAX: 801 581-5843
cruse@cs.utah.edu

This program requires someone to run a program on one of the SPARCS - sort
of a DUMP server.  You run the client DUMP on your Mac and then walk away.
Of course you must be connected to Ethernet in some fashion and configured
with MacTCP.

hope this helps
tim cera
tim@ufcia.health.ufl.edu
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1991 20:08 GMT
From: PBEAUJEANT%BNANDP51.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject: RE : Backup on Unix.
To: karpen@ccf.nrl.navy.mil

Hello,
There are some solutions on the mac.
1. NFS-Share to mount a part of a Unix tree. NFS mount a mac-style volume.
   The folders or the local mac-disk can be moved on the Unix volume.
2. XINET softwares. For informations tel XINET.

The other solution is : Run CAP on the Unix station. CAP is Public Domain and pr
   opose a Appletalk service for Mac on Ethernet. The work is made by the statio
   n and not by the mac.

Pascal Beaujeant.
Belgium. 0032/81/725013
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